Curse

Evil Hypnotist · Dec 04, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

A scam I thankfully didn't fall for when first getting into the game was a guy selling black dye when actually it was a vial of ink. Someone else brought him up on it and started warning ppl in the server and the scammer response was that it was "special spanish black dye" omg give me a break! lol

Although some ppl may disagree with terming this next one as a 'scam', I have almost been caught with a player trying to gazump me. For the uninitiated this involves agreeing a price and then trying to get a third party to put in a higher offer behind the first person's back. Thankfully the player who tried this with me was stupid enough to try and find someone else in the same server to gazump my bid. I spotted him, pulled him up on it and then reduced my bid 20%, which he was forced to accept when he couldn't find anyone else for his quick sale (I'm not being sexist here but by all probability with this game its going to be a 'him' :P). In hindsight I should have walked away completely.

Unfortunately I HAVE been caught with the classic 'sell for 1.8k, accepted 1000 and 8g instead', which was my fault for not looking properly and has taught me my lesson in that regard.

Unfortunately the unwanted actions of scammers force me into a DTA (Don't Trust Anybody) approach when it comes to trading, which is a shame when they are the minority of GW players. However, I prefer to be paranoid than annoyed with myself because I got screwed by some loser. Play safe ppl

eom · Dec 04, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

I see a lot of outrage over in-game scamming, but let's keep a little perspective on what we're talking about, here.

sh4ft3d · Dec 05, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Getting scammed sucks. First time i got black dye a guy wanted to trade with me. Not remembering that it is unwise to trade when you are new at agame, esp. mmo's, I traded it for a shield worth about 1-1.5k. Not really a scam, but i hate when people take advantage of new players.

sreesman · Dec 07, 2005, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by shawn23233

Yeah scammer will be very common in guildwars soon. They were everywhere in Lineage2 and GW is hosted internationally by NCSoft who seem to have a knack for attracting these poeple.

I just hope they can avoid the hacks and botters that ruined Lineage2 it really was a great game, and I am dreading seeing that happen again in GW (

What do you mean by "hacks and botters"... how can a hack be harmful to other playeres and what's a botter?

Mavrik · Dec 08, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

I don't understand how the buying ashes work. I never have any left over after completing the quest. But yes sadly there are may scams and many innocent new people falling for them. We should compile a list of known scams to watch for.

Mordakai · Dec 08, 2005, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Mavrik

I don't understand how the buying ashes work. I never have any left over after completing the quest. But yes sadly there are may scams and many innocent new people falling for them. We should compile a list of known scams to watch for.

The Altheas Ashes is not a scam. As the ashes are an item, you can pick them up, abandon the quest, and repeat. I've bought Altheas Ashes for 100g, that seems like a pretty good deal for 2,000 XP.

However, there are things you have to watch for:

1st make sure it's Althea's Ashes, not Glittering Dust (same icon).

Second, you have to find Althea's ghost before you can use the ashes.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: For those interested in stopping Bait and Switch scams, check this out:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...856#post759856

SoliceMoon · Dec 17, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08

Altheas Ashes is not a scam. I just bought one for 50g and the quest worked fine.

Hells Vengeance · Dec 17, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Why would people wanna scam you for 100g or less...

sno · Dec 18, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I'm not sure how this was accomplished, but I was recently (nearly) scammed when trying to buy a Sup Vigor rune (should have known when he spammed it for 3 ectos) He put it up on the screen, and when i moused over, it said "superior vigor" but the rune in the window looked like a minor... Then he said he'd give me a free sword pommel, and switched out the sup for a real minor.

Not sure how he got a sup to look like a minor, but if there are trade hacks starting in GW, theres big problems. anyone know?

Carinae · Dec 18, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37

It's not an exploit. It's a real Sup Vigor with 50 health. See the thread below.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89984

sno · Dec 18, 2005, 06:45 PM // 18:45

ah... well that makes me feel much better

thanks.

i wasn't aware that sups could be minor skinned, but it was a scam nonetheless, he tried switching it out.

menelik_seth · Dec 18, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

thanks for the heads up... minor skinned sups... sheesh... I'm glad they fixed that tho.

Mimi Miyagi · Dec 18, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

But the real obvious problem is that it's open to exploiting. As the OP mentioned, the trader attempted to scam him by switching out the superior with a real minor vigor. Unless you're careful, you'll not notice the change, as both skins are the same in that instance.

Lord Mendes · Dec 18, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

things like this happen all the time.

i was buying an old rockmolder for 10k (too good to be true i thought), and the guy told me that he was giving me an illusion wand for free. Just before accepting the trade, i noticed that he had replaced the rockmolder with another fi that looks like it. the funny thing is, when he was modifying offer, it didnt show that he had taken the old rock out and replaced it with something else. (straight from 1 item to 2 items)

Carinae · Dec 18, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by sno

but it was a scam nonetheless, he tried switching it out.

Granted.

I don't see why Anet doen't change ALL Sup Runes to use the big icon. We know they can do it. (eg: Tormentors)

Deadlyjunk · Dec 18, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

We know they can do it. (eg: Tormentors)

Bad example... we don't want to wait months for a bad result again.

Greygon · Dec 18, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

I still have a few Superiors sitting around with minor skins... they are just old... just be careful and you won't get scammed...

Gruug · Dec 19, 2005, 03:22 AM // 03:22

There is an underworld scam using an invinci monk, they let you pay their way, aggro too soon so the whole party dies off, and solos... waiting for you to map out so they get all the drops. I am currently refusing to map for a scammer by the name of ---. Beware of this build.

neoteo · Dec 19, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11

that doesnt work for me , im always the last to leave

hehehe

if i die , he will have to do it with me watching.

Farin · Dec 19, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19

You'r not allowed to post IGN's. Remove it before a mod does.